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Hi - I've just signed up to the pro service because I want to develop apps but have little coding skills. I'm a designer more than a programmer and Tiggzi seems to meet my needs - mostly! Most of the rather muddled set of support documents and video tutorials go at break neck speed, contain errors/typos and assuming the learner has programming skills. Yet Tiggzi advertises itself as suitable for those who want to produce apps without programming skills - if this is true then a good progressive range of teaching material should already be in place before you start taking the money! I have a Master's degree in computing but that was thirty years ago, now I want to take advantage of advances in software and do things more easily. If I am having trouble due to the lack of teaching material (other than two basic videos currently provided) I suspect there are other signed up Tiggzters in the same boat. Am I alone or are there others?

Hello! Here you can find more information http://help.gotiggr.com/

Thanks Marina - but that's the first place I looked. I probably seem over critical because I'm a teacher (I teach IT and iMedia in the UK prison service) but after the first two introductory tutorials, which are good, the beginner is left in the lurch. We need individual steps, elements on their own not muddled in with all sorts of other more complicated bits:
Navigation
Calculation (couldn't find anything on that)
Local storage input
Local storage retrieval
Hidden fields
What's a panel
etc.

Building blocks that can be used for beginners, the more advanced who just want a quick reference and which can then be put together to make more advanced and project based tutorials.

I am really impressed by the program, and the technical support seems good but I reiterate that the learning support is poor and muddled.

Lesley

Hi Lesley,

Tiggzi is cloud-based mobile app builder (IDE) for building HTML5 mobile apps. Even thought Tiggzi makes it very easy to build apps, you need to have at least basic knowledge of HTML5, JavaScript, CSS and web development in general. We don't assume the user has no programming skills, in fact the opposite.

If you point us to the typos or errors, we'll fix them.

We have 6 getting started tutorials for beginners:
http://help.tiggzi.com/getting-started. There are also many advanced tutorials.

Navigation and local storage are described here: http://help.tiggzi.com/getting-starte.... Local Storage is a browser feature so you may use the API directly as well.

Calculations are done in JavaScript, via Run Custom JavaScript action: http://help.tiggzi.com/documentation/...

The use of hidden fields is described here: http://help.tiggzi.com/getting-starte... as well as in Services section.

Panel component is described here: http://help.tiggzi.com/documentation/...

We offer a Free plan which allows you to try the service without paying.

Thanks Max, but I still think you're missing my point about the need to develop a structured teaching plan. This first time a child is going out you don't teach her to tie her shoe laces and get in the car and put her seat belt on all at the same time, you break it down into basic elements and when she's learned all three she can manage the project of getting into shoes and safely in the car in the right way in the correct order. I did the tutorial on "Building Hello World HTML5 Mobile App With Local Storage" but just the title makes you think "so just what are we actually doing here"?

I ended up cutting and pasting out the instructions on how to use the local storage, The whole thing seemed to stop short. I need my app users to put in a variety of data that is stored on their own mobile (and thereby stored in hidden fields or hidden pages in the app - I guess) and then be able to save all of that data as a project to be recalled from a menu for later occasions. I achieved all of that using the free Android App Maker but it wasn't nearly as pretty as the look you offer and would of course only work on Android phones; which is one of the many reasons why I've bought into your product. A complete article or tutorial on how to do the above using just your program (or as little external programing as possible) would be very much appreciated.

I appreciate you sending links but you seems to be assuming I hadn't found your help page - I've already visited that page a number of times and done quite a few of the tutorials, but it still seems very muddled. Try to look at the page with the eyes of a newcomer! As an education assessor for schools and colleges I can tell you that if you presented that as a learning scheme you would fail - which is a shame because your product is brilliant - you just need to work on explaining it better to those who don't have your experience or way of seeing things.

Understood. We are constantly making the docs better and this feedback will help a lot. Thank you. As for "Hello World" app, it's the first app developers write when they learn any new language or framework - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_wo...

If there is a particular outline you think would help, do let us know what you have in mind. Lastly, we reply very fast on the forum, we'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. You can also email us at supp a href="mailto:ort@tiggzi.com" rel="nofollow"ort@tiggzi.com/a

Thanks again Max for your prompt and helpful response.

I'm currently working on the following cross-platform app in which:

1. User enters data into input field - presses 'Save' button

2. Data is store locally - the data remains in the input field but the stored copy of the date is invisible to the user

3. On reopening the application the users recent data is still in the input fields (having been retrieved from the local storage)

4. User can press a 'Clear' button and remove all data on page

5. OR User can press a 'Keep Data' button which prompts the user to name the project for long term storage

6. At a later date user can recover - under the project title - all data that was was recorded on all the pages of the app for that project

   I have got myself, to stage 5 but cannot find a way to clear data - I'd be very grateful for some help on that as soon as someone has the time, thank you.

   I think this would make a good project based tutorial since it is a logical process that I'm sure would be relevant to a number of applications.

   many thanks

How did you save the data into local storage, did you Local Storage API?

To clear a local storage variable, this is the API:
localStorage.removeItem(key) or to remove all you can use localStorage.clear()

More info: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/...

I think I've misunderstood the concept of local storage. I assumed that the data was collected and stored locally - on the user's phone - ready to be restored when required. But the DOM article implies that it's the browser being used that actually temporarily stores the data. The apps I want to produce cannot rely on browsers since the users will not always have internet access, so the app needs to be a standalone program. Have I got this completely wrong?