Appery Site very slow

[Daniel6149833]

If anyone has never seen slow appery, do this

1. Make a new project.

2. Create a new page.

3. Add a grouped list of menu items

4. Select the whole item in the breadcrumbs

5. Set the amount of list items to 50

6. Patiently wait for 5 minutes

7. While waiting continuously ignore the browser asking to kill page. DONT KILL IT

8. Once it finally decides to finish, simply change the text of the 2nd menu item

9. While waiting continuously ignore the browser asking to kill page. DONT KILL IT

10. Simply select any menu list item then select another one.

11. Wait... Continuously ignore the browser asking to kill page. DONT KILL IT

12. Click the events drawer with the selected item and link it to something.

13. Wait... Continuously ignore the browser asking to kill page. DONT KILL IT

14. Save the project.

15. Wait... Continuously ignore the browser asking to kill page. DONT KILL IT

16. Simply refresh the page so it loads the project. Select more details to see.

17. Once it starts to load that page.... Wait......

18. Wait... Continuously ignore the browser asking to kill page. DONT KILL IT

19. Once loaded, browse for the screen to open it...

20. Wait... Continuously ignore the browser asking to kill page. DONT KILL IT

    Depending on how much or (not much but too much for appery) you will end up with no hair by the time you are done. Not aging... Pulling.

    Could you please change your slogan. It really does not fit. At all... "Build Enterprise Mobile Apps Fast" Just remove the word "Fast" because its not even remotely true.

[maxkatz]

Daniel - if you have constructive feedback or questions for us, we'll be happy to help you. However, this doesn't help.

We are building a mobile platform/IDE in the browser, with visual tools, source tools, and integrated backend services (database, push, server code). No one has done it before. It's challenging, and the browsers have limitations. But, we are getting much better at this, and improving speed, performance.

If Appery.io doesn't meet your needs or you don't find it useful, you don't have to use it, consider using other tools.

[Daniel6149833]

I am sorry for negative feedback, i understand your position. i do however have some constructive ideas. Check this out!

https://getsatisfaction.com/apperyio/...

[Brian__]

Hi Max,

Just to say that I am sharing the frustrations with working with Appery in relation to the speed of the interface. I think the concept of Appery is brilliant, but sadly, in the case of working on large projects its, in my opinion, not currently viable as a development tool due the currently extremely frustrating issues with speed. I'm currently working on an App which has 78 pages - at the moment, the combination of extremely slow page loading times and the fact that the system sometimes becomes unresponsive if there are multiple tabs open simultaneously, means development has become extremely frustrating for me on this platform. Do you have a time-frame of when you expect to resolve these issues?

If you don't mind me asking, what is the actual reason for the currently slow speed of loading the UI for a page in Appery?

Many thanks,

Brian

[maxkatz]

We are building an visual IDE in the browser -- something that no one has tried creating before. It has challenges. Even modern browsers today have limitations with regards to speed, performance and how much they can handle. We have greatly improved performance in the past couple of months and continue to work to make it even better.

78 pages - is a very large mobile project, sometimes it will take time to load various parts of the project.

Even traditional/desktop IDEs like Eclipse will significantly slow down and even freeze with such a large project.

[John Herdean]

I disagree with that Max because I loaded Eclipse up with over 150 pages and even Xcode also and neither was slowed down by the number of page designs. I really hope Appery figures this out because Im not sure how I'll be able to finish developing my app like this...I took more than a month off using Appery and im about to get back into it. I was informed last month that these problems will be fixed by the end of August. What happened with the fixes?

[maxkatz]

We have been increasing performance with every update in the past couple of months. For example, testing is now much faster and projects load much faster. Performance in general is not something you do once, every update we get better and better.

My experience with Eclipse is that it can be pretty slow at times.

As I mentioned above, our platform is the browser and browsers and JavaScript have limitations that we are trying to over come.

[Trickargl]

I just added a 112 item list, and the site was unusable from then on. Now I made it smaller for development reasons, but ultimately i want to have a 112 item list in my app.

[maxkatz]

A list with 112 items is a very big list and it will be slow. You are developing in the browser. The more elements you put in the browser, the slower it becomes.

Do you have 112 static items in the list?

[Ricardo Roque]

The Appery website is very slow for some tasks. I've made all moves (remove cache, cookies, change browser, test in another machine, etc), but still very slow. Is there any work in progress? The funny thing is that it was normal last week, I was working normally.

Problem: Very slow loading/opening pages, sometimes it fails completely, Very slow test application loading. I have to try many times to get them. It looks like heavy load servers problem, since the pages load very fast sometimes.

Normal: REST Services look normal.

Many thanks for any clarifications, I'm almost finishing my first application, but I've lost most of my productivity due to the above delays.